1985-0921 The English are Scholars, Sheffield, UK, DP-RAW

1985-0921 The English are Scholars, Sheffield, UK, DP-RAW


As I said yesterday, this is the field, field
where the light has to come. With so many lights, the field has to be enlightened. And this field which is enlightened is enriched
by nature, too. And when you were singing I felt the clouds
were catching the notes, weaving them within themselves and when it would rain, the rain
will sing the song again. As if the valleys were resounding so beautifully
and the echo was very gentle and filling the whole atmosphere. Perhaps you are not aware of the subtle, of
the Divine, how much It is anxious to work it out. But our trumpets
and our flutes and our drums have to be all right. There has to be coordination, complete synchronizing,
then the melody is played in a beautiful way. Clouds only carry the purest water, the purest
hymns. So when we are spreading the message, we have
to understand that it has to come from a pure source, purity is very important. I’ve already talked about chastity part
which is the Mooladhara, which is so important today; you can see it clearly how important
it is. But that’s not the end of it; that’s just
the beginning, just the beginning. But what we have to see is something very
innate built within us. And today as we are sitting in the heart of
hearts that is Sheffield where the steel is made, in the heart the steel, sometimes you
need a part of steel also in the heart. We have to see where are we lacking, what’s
our basic problem. We should face it. So as English we are, we have to think how
our brains work, are used to work, how traditionally we have been brought to problems. When we see around how we have accepted some
things which were very absurd and nonsensical, say in America or in France and other places,
as if we have no personality of our own. What did we give to others? What is the impression people carry about
the British? Hippies, or what do you call these days modern
– the punks. What is it that we have to give? Is a honorable image, is a honorable image
of the British, of the English. We have to be honored, we have to be honorable
people, and we must keep our honor. And honor cannot come or cannot be expressed
if we are people who are cunning. That’s very superficial, anybody can find
out if we have that cunning within us. Now it has been a character, can be very cunning
– that’s what I discussed this morning. Be careful on that, be careful. That’s a trick of the ego, don’t fall
a prey to that. And that then works out in our languages also. Now English language is a specially honored
language now because it is the language of the Sahaja Yoga as well. Of course we use Hindi, Marathi and then English. But English is the language in which My speeches
are, so it should be honored. We must have a sense of honor that comes by
respecting. When you respect yourself, you respect others. If you do not respect yourself, you cannot
respect others. And that’s what I’ve discovered that when
people took to anti-culture and all sorts of things the first thing they did was not
to respect anything whatsoever. And yesterday only I discovered that the language
which is spoilt has come through this: is fashionable to speak with a funny accent,
and I was copying that the Americans speak like duck – quack, quack, quack. But the English speak like a crow – caw, caw,
caw – and we have real English language problem. Just now Nick’s wife told Me that she can’t
understand what English speak. I said, “Same here, I don’t understand
either.” It’s a language problem. One gentleman who came from India, very well
educated gentleman, did his MA in English, he came back and he said, “I had a language
problem there.” I said, “Why?” He said, “They speak all kinds, they divert
it every way and educated people talk like that.” And was surprised that it has also come from
anti-culture, is a fashion to speak like that. And I can’t follow. That means it is anti-God. So you must respect your language. You might be acquiring it from hippie stage,
or you might be getting it, say, even from Cambridge or from Oxford or from public schools. Whatever it is, whatever may be the source,
either it is aggression on the language or no respect to the language. So in language, in speaking the language,
try to speak straightforward English language. Because we are international people. We are not English anymore. We are grown to be global people now. We have a global personality, and as global
people we have to speak a language which everybody can understand. We cannot speak cockneyed language. I mean in India also we have lots of cockneyed. But Sahaja Yogis don’t speak that language. You won’t understand that cockneyed language
that we speak even if you are an expert on any Indian language. So first of all, you must show respect of
your own language, more than anything else. If you cannot respect your country, your language,
your literature, your sublime things that are here, your buildings, how can you respect
anything else? This is your soil, which is not to be aggressed
this way. That doesn’t mean we become nationalist,
I did not mean that, but to grow out as a tree you have to know your soil and you have
to respect and be honorable. Where is that English honor which I used to
hear about? Is lost in the thin air somewhere? An honorable person will not keep back taxes,
will not ill-treat his wife, will not ill-treat her husband, will not talk rudely to them,
would be respectable, will respect the children. First thing is that he respects everybody’s
freedom. If he’s mean, then he’s not honorable. If he’s not generous, then he is not honorable. If he disobeys the law, he’s not honorable
either. Why should we disobey the law? I just don’t understand. Actually English laws are meant for angels
I tell you, horrible. But in that only the devils take advantage. Doesn’t matter, laws are very good no doubt. But why should we break the laws unnecessarily? If it is necessary, all right. But for every small thing if you start breaking
the laws, then we start breaking the laws of the Divine also. So we have to learn all these things. Let us be in an honorable way, accept things
which are good but not fashionable. Fashionable things – now it is fashionable
to be like this, it is fashionable to be like that. Now what I feel that fashion only is accepted
by people who have no personality at all. Tomorrow somebody starts saying that “You
put a empty tin of jam on your head.” Supposing, I mean, if they say so, “You’ll
look taller,” or something like that. I mean maybe a little, or let the jam falls
on your face. Any clownish nonsense we accept so easily. It’s all clownish, and clowns are the only
ones who copy like this because they have to amuse people by clowning. But are we to become clowns now? So by this kind of diffidence in our character
that we try to copy others without understanding what they are doing, we are becoming clowns. I mean you can see many like that. So the clownishness is now one of the characters
of the British. They really sometimes appear to Me like clowns. Because they try to copy others and whenever
you try to copy others, you are not the others. Like say we try to copy, say for example,
Americans – very difficult. They are so childish and stupid, we can’t
do that good, you see. I’ve seen a film of some Americans – I hope
there are no Americans sitting here – where they had about hundred people, actors and
actresses above seventy or eighty years of age all shaking, you see, and they all wearing
funny dresses, you see, half way missing, or this way missing, all sorts of things missing,
you see, less clothes than normal. And they were doing funny dances, you see,
all walking with sticks and doing shake. Or they were shaking already. Now for English they love to use their umbrellas
I think. So they look clownish because you don’t
carry sticks, you carry umbrellas. So trying to do something that is American
would be stupid. There’s no need to copy them. Even outside, then why inside? When you are a global personality, as in the
nature you can see a mango tree looks like a mango tree. It doesn’t try to become like an apple tree,
does it? And then that mango, when it is ripe, goes
to the whole world. Whatever is the best mango you can find it
in Russia, you can find it in America, you can find it all over. That’s how it becomes a global personality. But mango remains a mango; it is not an apple. Who is going to import apples from India,
in England? That would be stupid. So the personality that you are already, you
are a British personality, or English personality or an Irish personality, or whatever personality
you are, should be such is presentable to others to be cherished, to be enjoyed. How is it possible? You have to be excellent, first class, top
personality. So this clownishness must be given up. And it has come so much in England that I
feel the heart is absolutely oppressed by this stupid things. But there are certain nonsensical things which
have come within us which we should give up. As I said, first of all the cunningness, then
in our language there should be straightforward expression, no sarcasm. There’s no intelligence in sarcasm. Saying something nice to others is a great
art. Have we developed that art of saying something
nice to others? This art is to be developed by Sahaja Yogis,
how to say something sweet and nice to others. If you can develop the gentle method of saying
nice things, then later on you will see you will be able to do nice things for others
– little, little things here and there. Like the little girl bringing beautiful pink
flowers one after another. You are nice to Me no doubt, but to each other
and to others who come to us? So how to say nice things, what to say, when
to say, this we must learn. And so we can establish communication. Self-consciousness, self-opinionatedness can
never give you that. “I don’t care, all right let him be angry,
so what do I care?” Very common expression. But if you say to the person, “Why are you
angry? I do care when you are angry. What’s the problem? Can I not help you there?” Finished. He’ll say, “What sort of a angel I’m
meeting here?” Like yesterday the fellow was very aggressive
and he asked Me about heaven and hell and all that. I was least bothered. He was neutralized. You must learn, this is an art which one has
to learn. Don’t be proud of your harsh tongues and
your hot tempers. Don’t be proud. “I’m angry with him.” So what, is it a very good thing to be angry
with others? “I got very angry,” you see, with very
great pride they will tell Me. “I got very angry for that.” ‘Why? As Christ has said, only one anger is allowed:
if somebody says something against your Mother that He’s not going to tolerate. But that, too, controlled. Yesterday many were angry but it was all right. I know how to manage things. So we have to learn also to tell ourselves,
“Let us not be so self-opinionated.” We have to learn a lot. There is so much to be seen, so much to be
learnt, so much to be understood, outside also. Like British are absolutely insular by temperament. Another matching with them are Japanese, equal
type. Japanese also don’t talk much but don’t
absorb anything whatsoever. You can imagine three hundred years English
were in India, they learnt nothing. Can you imagine? Can you believe it? Three hundred years, generations, seven-eight
generations they were in India. While here, when the Indians come, they too
have no personality. They pick up your dresses, they pick up your
language, they pick up everything. They talk with the same slang and hundred
times they’ll say dirty words in it and they’ll say, “Yes man, no man, what man”
– to a woman also, unisex. They have too much absorbage. They absorb everything while you don’t absorb
anything. So these are two extreme cases. So as it is said in Sanskrit that what is
the difference between the swan and hamsa and the crow? No, no sorry, crow is black so I’m sorry
– hamsa and what do you call that? Crane, crane. What is the difference between a crane – yes
it is crane, isn’t it Gavin, in the water? Crane. So what is the difference between the crane
and the swan? So when they have to discriminate between
water and milk, then you can find out who is the crane and who is the swan. Nirak shira viveket. Vivek is proper decision. So if you put water mixed with milk before
a swan, the swan will just suck in the milk and the crane will suck the whole. He wouldn’t know. So that is what is, again we come to the same
point, is discretion that we have to develop. [Shri Mataji interrupts Her talk to point
out people] There are people they are looking out for us. They are lost there. They are Sahaja Yogis. I think they saw us here. They saw Me. So it is the discretion that we have to pick
up all that is good, all that is nice, from everywhere, which is such a lot, such a lot. Like I would say, what’s nice about British? Let’s see. Can you tell Me, who is going to tell Me that? Yogi: They have a great deal of tolerance. Shri Mataji: What did he say? Tolerance. No, no, not at all. It has to be a common quality, whether you
are a Sahaja Yogi or not. Tolerance is the least, that’s something
lacking. Yogi: They’re good leaders, Mother. Shri Mataji: You think so? Yogi: Fair play. Shri Mataji: Fair play I don’t know now
– that might have been. They were not very fair with Indians, were
they? They were not very fair with Chinese, never. Still go further. Yogi: Talking about the weather. Shri Mataji: That would be bad weather. Yes, I mean superficiality, but that’s not
a good thing. Yogi: Shri Mataji, they have very sharp minds. Shri Mataji: Sharp what? Sharp minds. Yogi: Intelligence. Shri Mataji: You’re near, but not there. Yogi: Inventions, Mother. Shri Mataji: Not so much, Americans are better. Yogi: Subtle. Shri Mataji: Subtle. I wouldn’t say that. Not that, not so much. Yogi: They want to help others. Shri Mataji: Seldom. Yogi: Manipulative Shri Mataji: That’s bad. Yogi: Loyal, Mother. Shri Mataji: Loyal? They create disloyalties, problems. They make people fight. Yogi: Once they find something good Mother
they will stick onto it. Shri Mataji: I wish they could. I wish they could, but the way they disappeared,
every time we had programs after that what I find everything disappeared. Sticking on quality is missing. Now is all right everybody has said? I wish you had all those qualities, you could,
why not? So all the qualities that are desired have
been expressed, but what really are? Should I tell you? Scholarship. Scholarship. Sahaja Yoga? Read everything. Sahaja Yoga means Kundalini, means this, that,
go to the library, find out everything. Just know it. Scholarship. That’s their quality. And this has to spread all over. You agree there? The scholarship in Sahaja Yoga has to spread
all over the world. The women specially want to compete with men
here. Very difficult, English women, not easy. Not all, but some. They should become scholars of Sahaja Yoga. I’m surprised people like Derek or people
like Hesta could not see the point. Scholarship is the thing and that’s why
they’re honored everywhere. They are scholars. And see now, heart becoming a scholar. That’s the integration of the brain and
the heart. We have so many scholars of Sahaja Yoga in
England. We might get one there and one here and there. Like we can say in Switzerland we’ve got
Gregoire and Arneau. Scholarship – how many are there? And very deep scholarship. And that is what you have to develop more,
specially the ladies have to learn a lot, is knowledge. To understand all the intricacies, all the
delicacies, and to work it out in that scholarly way, is the way you will really do greatest
service to Sahaja Yoga. And is such a honorable thing to be a scholar
and once you are a scholar, this knowledge goes into your head goes to your heart also. Scholarship in every subject. Scholars are different from inventive people. They may know very little and can invent something,
that’s a different thing. But that doesn’t mean you go and read Vivekananda
and all that, doesn’t mean that. But you go in every library, every place and
discover the Truth. Blake – scholar, so many scholars in this
country, most of them were Realized Souls. In England we have the maximum number, in
the West I’m saying, maximum number of scholars, who were Realized Souls, in such a small,
little country like that. In India of course we had saints who were
scholars, saints who were not scholars. So the scholarship part is your responsibility,
and like a scholar you have to be above many things. A scholar doesn’t stoop down to nonsense. He doesn’t take to superficial thing. It’s below his dignity to behave in childish
manner or to take to sex and all this nonsensical ideas. But the basic quality you have got which is
something so great I feel, because heart becoming a scholar is something very great. It’s a balance, it’s a real balance, and
that’s the steel, that is the steel of England, the scholarship. That’s how a New Jerusalem has to be built
in, not the old one where they were only faithfuls just going down singing songs and hymns, nothing
– but scholarship, the complete knowledge. They know everything about Kundalini, they
know all about chakras, they know all details about it and, if you may please, your Mother
has spoken in England the maximum number of lectures, because there are scholars. So preserve that, develop that, then only
you will have all other qualities which you have described just now. But remember that you are yogis, but scholars
in your subject. Take any subject that you are dealing with
– even ordinary thing, we can say if you are a carpenter you must know everything about
wood. What is this wood, from where it comes, what
is it, what can be used for, what is the density of this wood, what is the chemical composition,
everything you must know about it. And this is what you have to give to other
people of the world. Once you start doing all this, you will give
up all the malpractices which British have taken to. First of all they are the worst of all, is
to create problems between two persons – they are good at it. Like, now you see now in South Africa what
they did, create problem between one shade of black with another shade of black. Very clever. Now when this scholarship was perverted they
were the ones, you know they were the ones who started this idea that the blacks are
primitive. They are the ones who introduced this idea. The same scholarship used for bad purposes. Who gave these ideas were about four or five
writers who said they were primitive. Very nice – brand them as primitive, because
scholars after all can brand anything as anything. So it is necessary for us to bring goodness. To bring benevolence in this world we must
write benevolent things, write something idealistic, something higher, something hopeful, something
which gives them a new dimension of understanding. All the Sahaja Yogis must start writing. Ramdas Swami has said that, “Every day you
must write something.” Write diaries, write novels, write articles,
do what you like – poems, poetry. All kinds of things you can do if you just
know that you have to be yogi scholars, but not intellectuals. Intellectuals have the knowledge of others,
but scholars built up their knowledge on the true knowledge of others. That’s the difference between a scholar
and an intellectual. Intellectual has nothing of his own, he’s
a confused person and he doesn’t want to say, because he’s so frightened that if
he says anything that “This is what I think,” then people might say that he is a man of
domination or something like that. You need not be a graduate, you need not be
anything, but that quality is built within you, which is a very big thing and is very
much connected. Now in Sahaja Yoga as you know that the heart
is surrounded by seven main auras and these come from the brain, which is the seat. Now in the center, at the Brahmarandra we
have got the Heart Chakra, all right? The heart is here and around it are all these
auras, if you see in the brain. In the same way they are surrounding the heart. So if you know about them, it will circulate,
the knowledge will circulate, but circulate with love, without any aggressiveness, without
any showing off, without any cunning, without any sarcasm, in a full, straightforward, loving
manner. But for that we have to remember that we have
developed lots of antidotes in England. Like the words I have seen people use very
common is: “That may be too much; it may be too much.” They’re frightened. “One shouldn’t say too much.” You should! When you say too much at least little bit
will go into their heads. So you have to say too much, say what you
want. There should be exuberance, exuberance of
your ideas so that something goes into their heads, they know that you are sincere, you’re
saying it sincerely, you cannot contain within yourself, emphatically you have to say things. That’s what everybody did. All those who were great incarnations said
it with such concern, with such force. In the same way you have to say, without any
fear. “Oh that may be too much, Mother it was
too much for him.” Let him be blasted. Doesn’t matter. Say everything that you have to say absolutely
with full heart. But when people come to Sahaja Yoga, when
they come for, say, a workshop or something, we try to be the same party people, like in
the party you see, “What will you have?” Then they will say, “All right, let me think
what did I have yesterday, so I’ll have today this thing.” It’s like a shopping going on. No, you have to say, “We have this and please
have it now, otherwise you won’t have it.” This is the time, let them say what they like. Is important. I see sometimes your SDP conferences and all
this, baap re baap [note: this is an expression in Hindi to express disappointment], the way
they speak, they just blast you, I mean hammer in your head. And why should we not when this is the truth? Why should we not tell them, and talk to them
in that manner? We think by being gentle – all right gentleness
is different, but I mean to say by saying less than I see, understatement is typical
English statement. “That might be too much.” In Sahaja Yoga it is such a lot that how much
are you going to pour out? Can never be too much, so be careful on that. When you have to say it, say it in a very
blasty way, doesn’t matter. What are they going to do? They can’t crucify Me this time, can they? They dare not. Otherwise perfectly all right, nothing can
touch Me, and even crucifixion cannot touch Me, you know that. So you better say what you have found out
in a big way and tell them in a big way. Of course loving and gentle manner, but tell
them, the concern should be there. All right? Now this is what it is, one has to understand,
that there is nothing “Say little bit.” Then they think he is a shaky man. But when they sing horrible songs on the mike,
eating the mike I say, calling, “eating the mike music.” They go on, you see, aggressing on the mike
and people go mad with it, they like it. I don’t say you aggress, but don’t say
anything less, understatement is not needed. There should be not be any balancing in that. Those people who will be appeased by that
will not be good Sahaja Yogis. They cannot come in the Kingdom of God. We don’t have to be begging of them but
we have to honor them, we have to respect them, we have to be kind to them. But we have to give them what we have. Like in the family you go, you get everything
from the fridge and give it to them, they’ll be very happy – take it whatever you like. What a spread. But if you put one little fish and two eggs
for ten people with one chili to say that it is Sahaja Yoga, maybe a lemon, they will
think, “What’s this going on here? Wishy-washy stuff.” Now that’s one thing. Secondly there are words that people use very
commonly: “That is very fussy.” That shows your fears. In Sahaja Yoga nothing is fussy, nothing is
fussy. Always it is so. “It is very fussy, it is this is fussy that
is fussy.” It is coming to such an extent that people
now like beggarish existence; they want to dress up like beggars, rustic, nonsensical
things, worn-out clothes, worn-out faces. I was telling Gavin the other day, “Why
do you all like sand color? There’s no sand here. Is something Arabic in you that you like all
sand everywhere?” As it is the hair are blonde, face is sand-like,
clothes are sand. Mountains of sand, walking around. Why not be colorful? Why not wear colors? Sahaja Yogis must wear colors. Of course you should not be dandies. I must tell you that, otherwise you will be
dandies, you see, like wearing shocking pinks by men, and sort of thing. I don’t mean that. But you shouldn’t just go about with sand
color and a grey color. If you start wearing something nice, they
will also produce. I wanted to buy a sweater for Gavin in green
color. I couldn’t get one light green. I said, “Let’s have one.” I said, “You look.” No, couldn’t get one for him. They don’t make it – only sand. And I got it. Or else grey. Already the sky is grey, faces are grey, dresses
are grey, they wear grey suits, the horses are grey, the world is around grey – all
horrible. And then wear a grey dress to match with it. So, there’s nothing like fussy in Sahaja
Yoga but you should not be childish, frivolous, stupid. And you should not be also dandyish, showing
off. Like I have seen people painting their car
with gold and all that nonsense, or wearing a bow tie and a dinner jacket and walking
on the streets of Oxford Street to match with these horrible Hare Ramas there, to make a
contrast to them. That’s not necessary. On this also you could be scholars, you can
find out. About children, I’m very much worried now,
much more since I heard about this three-year-old girl. And I have to say that your children are precious,
they’re wonderful people. In the beginning they have suffered because
of you, but they come out of it, and they become so great. But you must learn one thing, is to be very
attentive to your children, don’t neglect them. Teach them habits by which they do not learn
things which will destroy them. Like every child picks up everything, puts
it in the mouth. We too here in England or anywhere in the
West, people just put their fingers in the mouth like that they will go. Anything they’ll just – supposing they are
opening a can. Now the can spills out some jam, so they put
it in the fingers inside. No. That jam can, might be having some germs. So anything that is to be put in the mouth
you must wash. That’s now has to be the law for Sahaja
Yogis, because so many germs, so many things, and for children specially they must be told. If anything falls on the ground it’s a very
mundane thing but you must learn how we tell our children. Anything falls on the ground, immediately
you’ll pick up and throw away somewhere and wash our hands. We’ll just say, “No, no, no, no, no, no,
not that.” Even from the mouth, if something falls out
you are not to pick up. Unless and until you really fanatically do
that, your children cannot be saved from all kinds of infections that are around. India is full of parasites and we have many
more, I mean we are the country where we breed and look after them and cherish them I think. All kinds of parasites we have had, politically
also many parasites on us, but all said and done, we know how to keep out of them, you
see, and that’s how we have to really condition our children. Secondly, never to leave your child alone
anywhere. Learn a lesson. At any cost you should not leave the child
alone. You can leave it with somebody who can look
after the child, who can run a crèche, who can do something of that kind. But pay attention to this point that there
should be no loneliness for a child. Child must be made to sleep in your room,
maybe another cot, maybe crib. When slightly grown up, still should be with
you, if there’s a grown-up another child you can make, or some aunt or somebody sleeping
with. But don’t make children feel that they are
lonely. Psychologically it will affect, and also physically
there could be a problem. We never, never, never allow our children
to be alone, do you know that, in India? I mean we are ourselves surprised how the
children just go out. Now supposing some child, say about five-year-old
says, “I’m going to a candy shop.” Nothing doing. Mother will say, “All right, when I go you
will buy it, candy.” I mean when My daughters were not married,
till then they never went out alone, can you believe it? Never. Even to school if they were going, they were
in the car with the driver. Even if they were going to colleges they were
going in the car with the driver. Never alone. And if they were going, say, by buses or anything,
later on when they went to higher education, they were going with friends. Safety of children has to be looked after
in this negative atmosphere everywhere. We are very good because we have this challenge
all the time, so we are very careful, and you people have to be now made more aware
towards your children. But don’t spoil them, you spoil your children
too much. I know they are very joy-giving because they
are Realized Souls. But tell them, “You are Realized Souls and
you cannot be dishonorable.” But not at the time. I’ve seen that you correct your children
when they’ll misbehave, “Don’t do that!” That’s not the way. Then you dishonor. You sit down with them, have a conference. “We’ll have a conference now,” you tell
them. “We’ll sit down.” So let them feel, let them sit on their chairs
like a conference hall, and tell them, “Now see we are all Sahaja Yogis. You are Sahaja Yogis, too, and the whole world
is watching you. You have to be honorable children. You have to behave yourself, you have to do
this way. We have to share our things otherwise they
will say you are not Sahaja Yogi. You have to have dignity.” You talk to them, develop their personality
that way, so that they know they have to be majestic, they have to be regal. They cannot be cheapish like others. Because all the time we say, “Don’t touch
that, don’t do that.” They don’t know, they are confused. Talk to them, sit down, talk to them – what
is to be done, how we have to behave, how to say nice things, how to help others, how
to share your things, how to give your toys, how to keep your things, how to be neat, how
to be tidy. It’s a training, that’s what you have
to do. And children also learn from your own behavior. Now you tell your children not to drink and
if you drink like a fish, then how will they listen to you? In the same way in Sahaja Yoga also, you do
not meditate, you are not disciplined, you live in a very untidy manner, you are extremely
careless, you do not honor people, your tongue is very loose, or you are very sharp, children
pick up. They absorb these things so quickly. It’s amazing how children absorb. Once I had taken a child to a circus just
– he was a very good child, a Realized Soul. We went there and the joker, you see, he took
out his upper pant just while going on a swing, so it was a big feat, you see, a joker. So we came home, he also took out his pant. I said, “Why?” He said, “In the circus how he did I’m
going to do the same way.” Imagine, that’s the only thing he picked
up. I said, “But that was a joker, you are not
a joker are you?” “No I’m not.” “And better wear your pant.” So children pick up wrong things because easy
to pick up that. So don’t do anything wrong. Another is husband/wife should never quarrel
in the presence of children. If you want to quarrel I can even lend you
some sticks, you can fight. Fight in your bedrooms, do what you like. You can break the heads or break the hearts
or do what you like, but outside your rooms you are wonderful husband and wife. At least let your children be good, enjoying
husband and wife. Actually it is stupid to fight because you
must learn how to enjoy each other. So we come from scholarship to the scholarship
about children. Some people have to take it up seriously. Of course there is a little book which Louise
has nicely done up, but is not sufficient. Some three-four people have to sit down, or
some ladies could do it with some doctor there or something. Sit down with the full compiling of the ideas
of Sahaja Yoga about children. Another one can do the education, because
Sahaja Yoga will be boring for you. What will you do? So much to be done about the education of
the children. Is very important because every time I go
to a place, there’s a school being started, “What have we to do for the school? How are we to conduct?” Now why not you people make some research
and give Me the ideas and I’ll put it through? I’m good at correcting than creating, I
think nowadays, because so much I have created. Whatever I have created is to be rearranged
and consolidated. So I can consolidate whatever you give Me,
I can consolidate, I can put right, I can correct it. So best thing is now to form a committee for
this. One for children, one for book on children,
on Sahaja Yoga. What Mother has to say about, you can use
My quotations. Then a book about the education of children. Third book has to be about the married life. That’s how you can go on compiling, about
the social life, about the politics, has to come from England. A series, so much to be done in England. Because people read that, it can be always
translated from one to another. Is very easy. So I would request you all to put your mind
to this whatever are your interests you should work it out and put it in the language of
Sahaja Yoga. Every sort – sports, you can take to gardening,
or anything, even machinery. Bring it to the level of Sahaja Yoga. Like computer, now all the developing countries
want to develop computers. Now we must find out what are the problems
of computerization, then how it is going to affect socially, deeply, in the future, what
can happen if we just develop computers and nothing else, how if it is one-sided movement
then how the whole suffers. Like that a new dimension, a new all-pervading,
solution of everything can be done. And that can be a quite a big eye-opener to
people who do not want to commit the same mistakes that you have committed. I must say this Affluent Society and all these
books that Galbraith wrote was very helpful to some people, and that’s how it should
be. So you can guide people who want to be like
you, and you can guide the people who are like you and who have to change. It should be your idea. Drama – what’s wrong with our drama, what’s
wrong with that and how we can improve it. Everyone of you is capable of contributing
something like that. So those who are interested in different,
various type of things, in this seminar you can decide what one likes and what another
thing – like even racial discrimination we can take a subject like that somebody can
work it out. Why racial discrimination has come, what are
the bad effects of racial discrimination? If it comes from English, they will say, “What
generous, good people there are, how they understand the feelings and how they …” That
will be very soothing if it comes on the other side. Then now we have a problem of women asking
for their rights and all that what you call feminist movement – what is wrong with the
feminist movement, how they have gone wrong, and all those things. In every subject, even in economics and everything,
you can go forward with the scholarly ideas. You can take help from other countries also
who – we have scholars everywhere. But we have maximum number of scholars here. And this is what we have to do in this land
of She-field. May God bless you all. Should we meditate for about say, ten minutes? Will be good idea, just to meditate and to
find out what chakras are catching, to find out what side is weak. Now if your left side is weak, put your left
hand towards Me and right hand towards the Mother Earth. If the right side is weak you put the right
hand towards Me and the left hand up there. Now if both are all right, when they normalize
you put both of them towards Me, all right? For example, now you can tell because you
are in east end, what’s the problem of east end is. Survey it. You should find out the problems of east end. I remember you told Me about some Sikhs, what
they were doing, drinking so much and doing all these things which is against, against
Nanak Sahib. And all these things if you tell, the way
they run after white skin. Yes, that’s what it is. So face-to-face let us see what is wrong with
us. What is wrong with you? With what is wrong with others? Let us see as a witness, not identified with
anything. So if you tell all those things you see – what
is that, what makes people that way? You go into it from both the sides, and you
can give real good solutions, you can give solutions. For example there are doctors who can make
a book with the divine knowledge related to the medicine. There are psychologists, they can make a book
– Gregoire I think, Rustom has done a good job, I don’t know. Now by the way I must ask who has got Rustom’s
book? You have got? Derek you have? Yogi: No I haven’t, Mother. I haven’t seen it. Shri Mataji: Somebody who is not here may
be having. Who else? Ask Maureen. Is she here? Maureen? She’s not here? Ask her maybe. Do you think so, Maureen may be having? No. I just don’t understand. I think you better see in your office maybe,
Gavin, just have a look, no? Because I gave it to someone, because it’s
not there in the house, can’t find it. We had found his book, isn’t it? No. All right, he’s a scholar, no doubt, and
I wanted Derek, you to read that because really, it’s really dynamic. Dynamic is the word for that. You can blast all the Jungians and all the
psychologists together. I must find it out, otherwise somebody should
write to him that God knows where it is Mother is very anxious. I must publish that book. So now if you come out with sensible good
books authentic, worked out, you have to work for a book, you cannot just write anything
off hand. Like William Blake and Sahaja Yoga, relate
it to Sahaja Yoga. Now before meditation any questions, is there? Did you ask any questions there? No one? Any question? Yes, what is it? [Yogi’s question is inaudible] Shri Mataji: Loud. It’s so fast that it’s like Portuguese
to Me. Can you tell Me Gavin? Yogi: He is saying there should be some organization
by which it’s known whether any particular one of Your speeches is being or has been
transcribed, so that there’s no duplication. Shri Mataji: There’s no…? Yogi: Duplication of effort. Because he wants for Your speeches to be transcribed
from the tapes and he doesn’t want to do one and it’s already been transcribed. Shri Mataji: Are you doing some… you’re
transcribing. Yogi: Not at the moment Shri Mataji. I used to worry – every time Shri Mataji
has a very nice speech sometimes I just felt like transcribing it but I was worried maybe
someone is doing it already. Shri Mataji: What’s it… Yogi: He’s worried that if he does the transcript
somebody else may be doing the transcription so it would be a wasted effort. Shri Mataji: Agreed. Now who are transcribing – they form a group. You are transcribing? Who else, will you stand up, you also stand
up please. Now you know each other don’t you? Yogi: Mother I’m quite prepared to take
a list because I’ve got a computer. Shri Mataji: What is it? Yogi: He said he can make the list on his
computer. To make a list… Shri Mataji: Yes I think amongst these four
who are transcribing, all right. You decide among yourselves. Yogi: But there are many more internationally
Shri Mataji and it should be advised to all centers. Shri Mataji: You see in other languages, which
are being translated. Yogi: Even in English Shri Mataji: Like say Australia – whatever
I have said there in Australia they should transcribe. That what I have said in England they should,
in every country whatever I’ve said should be transcribed by that country, is better
to make it systematic. All right? Is all right now? So four of you here should transcribe whatever
I’ve said in England, which is going to be a hard task. Some more people should raise their hands,
who would like to do transcribing. Please stand up, Derek and Louise, you take
down their names, take down their names. You give your names, write in on a chit of
paper. And now you form a group and tell them how
to transcribe. What else? First of all you must understand My Indian
English, otherwise you can’t, or they call it King’s English I don’t know why but
they say so. Shri Mataji: Yes, how are you? Yogi: Getting better I hope Mother. Shri Mataji: That’s good you look better,
thank you. May God bless you. What is the next? It’s very, very constructive. Now editing, once you have transcribed somebody
has to edit it also. Not like Indians – whatever when I speak I
say sometimes, “You see,” “Do you understand?” All these things need not be there but they
think that nothing should be missed of Mother. But I would say that something is needed. I mean, you cannot go on just adding these
things after all, so we can remove some of these things, this type of pauses that I’ve
used. Because talking is different from writing. But in any case when you do it I’ll have
to go through them, before we publish them. But so many lectures of Mine have duplicates,
repetitions. So once you have done, transcription then
we can see that, we can adjust. Sometimes certain things are to be said once,
sometimes twice, and sometimes hundred and eight times. For example, “I am not guilty.” All right, so any other thing? This was very constructive I must say. Yes? Yogi: Mother in one of the Nirmala Yogas there’s
a little diagram which You have drawn of the Kundalini coming up through the chakras and
going round two circles and then coming up to the next one. I can’t find from it if the Kundalini is
coming up and going round and then continuing up the same side or if it’s crossing over
at each junction. Supposing I am doing the right side, is it
coming up and going round and continuing up the right side every time, or does it come
up the right side, go round twice and go to the left, go round and come up. Shri Mataji: No it goes in a spiral way and
cuts it at a point, and makes a chakra. You see it’s a sympathetic nervous system
which is left and right. It goes in a spiral, all right? And it cuts it at a point because it goes
in a spiral – that’s the chakra. But I think we have done that in one of the
speeches, is so. Once this is transcribed, that will be a source. Then everything I’ve said, all these things,
I’ve said it in very great details, you will have to locate it. What else now? What is it? Yes, Gavin you tell Me? Yogi: What is to be done with the water that
is used in puja, afterwards? When we wash the Feet, what use is to be made
of the water, how is it to be dispersed? Say at home when we do a little puja and we
just wash Your Feet in the photograph, what’s the proper way to dispose of it? Shri Mataji: The photograph or Feet? Photograph, you see, that becomes vibrated
water, you can use for any purpose, you can put it for trees, you can do all these things
external use, you can use for anything. But if you have cleaned the photograph and
all that and if it is a clean photograph then you can use it for drinking also, is all right,
can be used for drinking also. Because vibrations are such that they kill
all germs, everything. Because now for Ganges water we just drink
like that, no problem. It never gets spoilt. You keep it for months together never gets
spoilt. Because falling from the head of Shiva never
gets spoilt, that’s the sign of the River Ganges. Yogi: He’s asking what is Your advice about
fasting? Shri Mataji: No, you can fast but not in the
name of God. If you want to fast you can fast but not in
the name of God. God doesn’t want you to fast. Nor does He want you to eat like a glutton
but, He wants you to enjoy the food, whatever He has given you. It should be: you should pray over the thing,
you should give vibrations to your food and enjoy. God has given you everything and you should
eat what is needed for you. But you should not starve, you should not
fast in the name of God. Don’t torture yourself in the name of God. That’s very anti-God activity, I think. Like poor fellow yesterday that Vivekananda
tortured him, imagine? He’s gone through all that for four years,
too much. It makes Me really very sad that people are
tortured in the name of God. Yogi: Should there be a magazine with all
the poems? Shri Mataji: Yes, we have a magazine? Yogi: He’s saying, “Could we have one?” Shri Mataji: With the poems? Only thing I’ll say, poems are to be very
much still to be put right. Magazine for Sahaja Yogis is all right, but
if you have to put it out, then they have to be little bit, brought up-to-date, I mean
in the sense that they have to be more, sort of, edited, and one has to work on them. And the poems should be brought out as magazines
but they have to go through proper understanding and things. Even sometimes people write funny, funny types
of poems also, like somebody will say, “Sahaja Yoga is my rice and Sahaja Yoga is my daal,
and Sahaja Yoga is my meat and Sahaja Yoga is my fish.” And I said, “Next will be and Mataji is
my food.” You see they mean that it is everything, but
the way they express is sometimes really crude. Yes, there was a poem like that I tell you,
and I got a fright of My life you see. So, I would say that one has to be little
careful. You see there are two things always in expression. First is creativity. Of course, you have to be a creative person
but you must have the technique. If you don’t have the technique, then this
creativity looks bizarre. So even if you have ideas, very poetic ideas,
you must have the technique of putting it in. Prose poetry can be also very beautiful but
you must know the technique, you must know the way how to put it across. Like you may be a great artist as a creative
artist, but you must know how to put technically. Supposing I am a great artist but I don’t
know how to handle a brush, how will I do it? So both things have to be there and that’s
what I think, that because of Sahaja Yoga people are getting very creative and they
are feeling the exuberance and they want to express themselves but the technique part
of it is lacking, and the subtleties are lacking. So whatever poems you are writing is very
good idea, like some of them are very good, but still I think there should not be any
crudeness in it, all right? So all those who are writing poems, who would
like to write, stand up. So nice to see so many poets around. All right so now, who will look after? You? All right. You all know them, give your names to him
and send all your poems to him, all right? That’s it. There should be nothing childish, cheapish
or anything like that. Then for art, all those who want to produce
pictures and paintings, drawings, please stand up, even the children. Chris, you’re going to do that, good, and
your wife too, she’s very good. So let’s have Chris there. Chris will you be in charge? Please be seated. So it comes to that we have also two types
of people. We have people who are intellectuals – easy
chair Sahaja Yogis – as we have politicians. They good at knowledge, scholarship. They know about Sahaja Yoga. They write well. But there are others who are active, very
active, the young, extremely active, they can work hard, they can do anything. That’s a very good thing, but I think we
should try to imbibe one quality that is lacking in us. Like a person who is an intellectual, or a
person who is a scholar, should try to do other things also, like postering now. So for postering they will not go, those who
are intellectuals. That’s not good. Or anything like that. Those who are painting, they’ll paint but
not poster it, or they would not like to write the addresses. We should be able to do everything because
we are integrated personalities. I mean I can give lectures, I can cook food
and I can wash utensils and I can clean My house. I can wash your clothes and whatever you say. Perhaps may be something I may not be able
to do I should say, many things. I tell you so many things I can’t do. You don’t know My weaknesses, there are
lots of things. I’m very bad at signing checks, useless
for banks. Always the banks put Me into trouble, I don’t
know what they’re up to, and thank God Gavin is quite aware of My weaknesses. So looks after that part otherwise I would
be sunk, bad at money. Very good at remembering if somebody has taken
money from Me, but if I have given something to someone I don’t remember, very bad. I give something to someone and then I don’t
remember I’ve given it and I appreciate it, it’s very bad too. I do it very often. I’m so frightened now I don’t want to
praise anything because mostly it is given by Me – it’s horrid. It looks very funny isn’t it? That’s one side missing completely in Me. I’m very bad at say passports and things
like that and … what? Also, I don’t know about ticketing, all
these things I’m very bad at all these things, you see. So that’s how you look after Me in that
part, is really I just don’t know. I’m very bad at time, now I don’t know
what’s the time now. Very bad at watch, it’s always upside down. But there’s one thing good, that I know
Myself very well, and I know how to laugh at Myself, so I never feel guilty, I know
how to laugh at Myself. I can’t learn now, these things. I’ve learnt lots of human things but now
I can’t learn how to sign a check, where to sign, what to sign, I’m very bad. You can get signature on My death warrant
also. See I’m like that, I don’t know I just
sign I trust and works out. So far nothing has gone wrong as such, much,
but this is what it is. So doesn’t matter, one can manage. And that is how one should look at oneself
– not to feel guilty but some things are missing. But if you can acquire, other qualities also,
will be a good idea. And that’s what I think should be the attitude
towards Sahaja Yoga, that no work is below our dignity. For some people have such ego, “Oh I’m
coming there why not I have a room?” Such stupid people have nothing to do with
Sahaja Yoga, I tell you. “I must have a special room, why shouldn’t
I have this?” This is absolute sign of a stupid fellow,
is absolutely a sign of a person who has never known what is comfort, never known what is
money, never known what is luxury. Is something cheapish like a beggar who just
starts demanding, “Give me five shillings,” then he asks for one hundred shillings and
this and that. All these things – the one who asks for things,
is not a king. The one who accepts whatever comes their way
is the real king because he’s mastered it. This is what is the right attitude. That’s what a Sahaja Yogi has to be. Who goes on grudging, grumbling about small,
small things is not a Sahaja Yogi. Sahaja Yogi is a king, he gives, gives Realization,
the utmost, the highest, all right? What’s it? [Shri Mataji speaks with an Indian yogini
in Marathi – UNKNOWN MARATHI WORDS] She’s giving a very subtle point about puja. That when we are doing the puja, say of the
photograph also, then we should have all these things like a kalasha and all those things
there, we should not just do the puja of the thing – pratibha. So I’ve said. “You’ve come here all the way over here
to tell them these things they don’t know.” So all you see the deepam and all these things
should be there properly done, for the photograph also, that’s in the protocol. So certain things of protocol – now Gavin
is becoming a big pundit you know. He’s getting a scholarship in puja business. So you better talk to Gavin, those who have
problems about puja, better ask Gavin. Yogi: Mother I was going to ask those who
know something about Puja should come and tell me. Shri Mataji: All right some of you should…
they have to tell something you better go and tell him also. Yes, good idea. Chhaaya has not come today? No. She has told lot, then we have got… now
she has come. Shakuntala is here then we have got this lady,
we have so many who can tell you about this and you can work it out. That’s good. So scholarship of puja that should be, and
those who want to do puja now, stand up. That’s too much. To know about puja, all right? Good idea. You ask Gavin, we should really have about
different marriages, how we perform, what are the mantras, what does it mean. All those things I think we should really
compile a book on that, good idea. All of you should support. Give your ideas, all right. Thank you. I mean in the sense you ask a question, “What
should be done? What is to be done? What is good?” So that he works on that and we find out a
common point. All right. May God bless you. Sit down, sit down. Any other aspect. Yes? Yogi: Shri Mataji, I was wondering what was
going to happening about building work in Sahaja Yoga, sometime ago we discussed Golden
Builders. Shri Mataji: You have, you are a registered
society, aren’t you? Have you registered yourself as Golden Builders? All right, all those who are interested in
buildings and decoration and maintenance, please stand up. Vicky, what do you build? Yogi: Mother, the decoration side, if that’s
suitable and can be integrated into the building, the decoration side… Shri Mataji: Really, then better give your
names to Vicky, all of you. Let’s have it because, you see, also I tell
you John, I gave him a good advice to John. I told him, “Take photographs of My house
and use it for advertising for saying that this is the house we have done. This is what we have done.” For example, you can do it by showing your
film the way that I have taken the photograph. I mean I have done this, all that you see,
and can use it as an advertising thing. So that’s how you can carry album and say
that we are working with Golden Builders. Yogi: One other area Shri Mataji, music. Shri Mataji: All right. For music please stand up. We don’t have Banam here. Is he here? Yogi: Yes, Mother. Shri Mataji: All right. Because I have already asked him to do one
thing. So will you look after, all right? Can you all contact him? Whatever is to be done about music, all right? Please be seated. Now there’s one another aspect is photography. Photos, is should not be all filed. Remember what we have done. Gavin you have to get all the names of the
people who have… you should give to your leaders all right all of you. Whatever you have said it, without hesitation
I would like to see. Now photography – those who take photographs
stand up. No, more. More people for photographs. Many more. Those who have…what are you saying? Yogi: Those who have taken nice photographs
of Mother, I thought they would stand up. Shri Mataji: Some of them? All right. Where is Don? Yogi: He is making tea, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: He is making what? Yogi: Tea. Shri Mataji: So, all right. So Don … Harris will look after that. Ray. You all should contact Ray. Give him your names. All right? Legal side is very important. So lawyers and administrators, just stand
up. No we have here, what about you? You are a Custom Officer isn’t it? Better stand up. Anybody police officer, those who are dealing
with government? Yes, good. All right, you look after that. Good. You know him or not? All right. Yogi: Mother may I ask you one thing about
the important side of perhaps purchasing property through Sahaja Yoga and maybe the benefits
that could be obtained through use of the charity. We don’t have any knowledge about it at
the moment, but in Birmingham at the moment, we have made some inquiries and now Ray from
Derby, he deals with the legal side of many things connected with local government… Shri Mataji: Can you stand up. Yogi: …and he’s been most helpful in sorting
out our details referring to mortgages and so on for us and has come up with certain
information. But also we’re anxious to know what benefits
may be accrued by Sahaja Yogis if we can use a charity to do such things. It seems that there may be some financial
benefits here and if we can get together some information. Shri Mataji: All right. For this part I would say David Prall. Where is he? Stand up. Those who are interested, buying properties
and charitable things and all that, who are interested? Just get up. Where is Ian? Yogi: Mother we have got some details about
the covenant thing from our accountant… Shri Mataji: What, details about? Yogi: Getting money on covenant. It’s very much beneficial, tax benefits… Shri Mataji: All right. So David Prall is to be informed about whatever
information you get, and to get from him all the information that is needed, and through
him we’ll deal in property problems. All right? So let us have a collective thing, all of
you should give your names to him, and everyone who is now appointed as the person in charge
should give us a full idea. Any problem with your properties should go
to this committee. All right? Now, there’s one more aspect which is the
most important and the greatest headache, is marriages. So this has to be somebody international and…You
are in that photograph group, all right? Who is in charge of photographs, Ray Harris. All right? You contact him. Now make something positive, some plans positive,
make it something, let Me know. There are photographs and photographs and
you don’t know where they are compiled, who has taken them, where are the copies – nothing. It’s all just, everywhere, all right? So proper filing has to be done, proper understanding
has to be done. For marriages Warren is the best I think. Now Warren you should stand up and now those
who want to help in making marriages successful, in the sense in advising people, in making
them understand, talking to them, and also organizing marriages, future marriages, of
people – like a marriage bureau – those who would like to help. Some elderly people should come out for this. I would like to have. What do you think Manta? You not stood for anything, come along. Pat, where’s Pat? Who else? They should be happily married people, in
a way. Yes, good, Sarah. Yes, good. There are outside also. That’s for children. They will be for children. Those who are outside will be for children. All right, so here they are, now please send
your names to him today. All these names must be given today, in this
seminar, all right? Now for children, last and the most important. Call them. You are a teacher, isn’t it? You are teaching in a school. But just now we are thinking of starting a
school in Hounslow. But where do you live? It’s too far away. All right. Now how many of you who have children, small
children, and interested in them? Let’s see. Now get up. All those parents who have small children,
all those parents who have very small children. Get him please, get him. I think David is the best for this. David will you take over? Let David handle. All of you should contact David about it. Now all of you should sit down and only David
should stand so they should know. You’ll have to also deal with problem children. There are problem children. Now we have to find out something where we
can deal with problem children. And about that I’ll talk to you. Those who have problem children, please get
up. She’s better, much better now. But what about you? [Question from a yogi: is deafness a problem?] In a way, in a way it is, because it is to
be treated, all right? So, those who have problem children, also
must be dealt with. So you can have two things: where there are
problem children and where there are not. If they are catching, if they are still not
enjoying life, if they have little problems with them, or if they are catching from parents,
all these things are to be dealt with. So on this point I have to say one thing,
when we have problem children is sometimes the fault of the parents also or may be some
defect in them, or some sort of a wrong thing. Now under these circumstances, we have to
understand that it is the right approach of the parents can only help the children to
get all right. So whatever is suggested to them and told
to them, they are not to feel bad about it, but to accept it and correct their ways and
methods and things will work out. All right, so that’s a promise. Nobody’s going to feel bad about it. Is going to take it up as a very good advice,
whatever we have to tell them, so because we have to pay special attention to this. Specially with ladies I have seen if you tell
them anything, they start crying. It’s a water power which I cannot overcome. I don’t cry so much do I? I don’t know why people should cry so much
and upset everybody. So such people will not be allowed to cry. If they are to correct their children, first
thing they are not to cry and weep and sulk. Then only we can solve the problem, all right? So, done. This is also done. All right, let the children go out. Because the children still are not peaceful. We can see that. They are very noisy. They are not normal, so you can take the children
out. I think most of them are problem children,
because they cannot feel the vibrations. You could feel, you see. Did you feel that when they came in, the heaviness? It was very sad. Those who were supposed to do great jobs are
sick now. That’s because of the parents. I think now I can go or what’s the next
program? Yogi: Mother this evening we wanted to sing
something for You, some books. Shri Mataji: What’s that? Can you hand it over to Me. What a very sweet thing you…what a sweet
thing. Thank you. Lunch? I don’t know. Am I supposed to eat lunch? That’s another thing you see. I have not had lunch so far, I think so, you
know. So what song Gavin? Why not have I’m Your Rakhi Brother? Yogi: There’s quite a big job to be done
on taping…big job to be done on getting all Your tapes transferred onto permanent
tapes. Did You want to appoint somebody to help Germail
with that? Shri Mataji: Where is Germail? I didn’t see him. Yogi: He’s coming in the afternoon. We need people who are technically well who
are able to spare time each week to copy many of Your old tapes. Shri Mataji: Those who want to copy My old
tapes and help, please stand up who know technical ways of doing it. But we have only one machine. Can we buy another? Yogi: The machinery is adequate, Mother. They’ve got enough machinery now. Shri Mataji: Only one. Yogi: Germail is well set up for copying. It’s the people we need. Shri Mataji: You have to come, distribute
among yourselves and [MARATHI] and there’s no Hindi speaking people here? Chhaya can do Hindi. They can go there to the ashram and do it. [MARATHI] So Ian is not going to be here permanently
but Germail. You must contact Germail, offer your services
to him and tell him that you would like to do that. How many there are, who can spare? Derek you got up also. Can you come to the ashram sometimes? Yogi: I’ve got copying facilities in Cambridge,
Mother. They send me single tapes and I copy twenty
or forty at a time. Shri Mataji: All right. Some people who can spare a day. Yogi: One day each week. Come on, there should be a lot of people who
can do it, in London, at Chelsham Road. Shri Mataji: Will you give your names to Germail? Some more people should come round. It’s a tremendous task, you see. Yogi: All go back to 1974. They are all deteriorating and Mother’s
tapes are going to be lost if we don’t do it quickly. We also need to spend money on a digital recorder
to make it permanent. Shri Mataji: That’s good. It’s very important. Children are in a bad shape Left Nahbi is
catching. Wrong with, something wrong with the mothers. What is it? Now what I’m saying, this is to be done
when I am gone, all of you, should give your names to…remember, I hope you remember. Because you stood up and sat down, stood up
and sat down, but now remember when you stood up, you see. One may forget. Yogi: He’s saying that there must be some
people who would be prepared to write articles about Sahaja Yoga for publication in the magazines
and newspapers, and we should make an effort on that line. Shri Mataji: Yes. That’s one side of it. Newspaper cuttings and things now, I was thinking
of John Noyce if he’s here, I don’t know. Are you? He’s the one who should be in charge of
that, John Noyce. Will you stand up? Now will you stand up all those who want to
do that? Is compiling of all newspaper cuttings, from
all over the world, compiling all articles which are to be published. You mean to say in the magazines? What did he say? Yogi: He’s saying that people should start
writing now, for publication and that it should all be edited and sent in. Shri Mataji: Yes. That’s it. But also we have newspaper cuttings everywhere
which are to be put into one file and to be studied and marked. Yogi: That’s one job which is very good
for John to do. He’s very good at that. Another team with David perhaps. Shri Mataji: Now. For David is for property and all that we’ve
given him one job, is sufficient to kill him with one job. But you can join him in this, I mean in the
sense you can belong to that party as well. So now those who want to compile all that
is interviewed, all the newspapers, every cutting and also your own contributions, please
stand up. This is not only writing, but compiling. That’s good. Valerie is good. For example also we can say what we can do,
how to have our pamphlets and brochures and these are to be done up to that point. All right? That’s one. So we come to another very delicate thing
is contacts. Now so? That’s it. Contacts with the television, and other publicity
things. Now whatever is our own publicity should be
done by John Noyce but to contact others and all that. Valerie? Yogi: What about John Glover, Mother? Shri Mataji: Oh, where is John Glover? No that’s for something else. But I was thinking Valerie is better for this. Will you take over? Please stand up. Now those who want to go to the programs,
if we arrange some sort of a drama, something or we arrange anything related to the – for
the television or publicity anywhere else outside, through other agencies, please stand
up. Good. Bogdan and John Noyce. I didn’t see Bogdan, where is he? All right. So you be one of the parties with them, but
leader is Valerie. All right? Please be seated. But remember that you have promised all these
things in My presence. Practically we have covered lots of things. Let’s see how much we achieve. So Paul what are you in charge? Computerization of everything. Yogi: Not at the moment, Mother. Shri Mataji: All right. You stand up for that. Now here is Paul. Yogi: I’m pleased to say, Mother, that the
equipment we make is selling very well in India. We’re selling Marathi, Gujrati, Bengali,
Tamil systems, everything. Shri Mataji: So all that sort of typing, of
computerizing, Paul is in charge. Now those who want to help him in that, who
are good at computerizing, giving ideas on that please stand up. All right. Who else? Germail, also Germail. Good. So now please write down all their names in
one paper. That you can tell later. All right? Brian has done a good job. There’s a series of seekers and actually
in one of the programs one boy gets Realization in front of My photograph and they show My
photograph on the television. But that is in Auckland. That is in New Zealand where we have a very
great dynamic Prime Minister. I think after Sadat, I feel he is another
person who is a Realized soul. I hope the Prime Minister here also gets Realization
or we get somebody who is a Realized soul, one of the two. I hope she gets it. Pray for it. So can we go now? What’s the lunchtime business? Yogi: Lunch is coming, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: Here? And nobody’s going to eat now. I’m the only person who is going to eat? [Yogi says something inaudible] Shri Mataji: All of us. Then it’s all right. What’s that Gavin? [Yogi says something inaudible] Shri Mataji: Just … [laughter] Thank you very much. That’s quite heavy. All right. May God bless you. You can open it and show them. That’s what they make here, and I mean there
was no need but they said I have to remember. I would in any case remember and but now that’s
their idea, what am I to do? Something that they make here. That’s it. See. Oh what a beautiful design. Is in Sheffield? Yogi: Yes, made in Sheffield. Shri Mataji: It’s beautiful design, isn’t
it? It’s better than what you showed Me. That’s the third one. Now we put it here. It’s beautiful and this I will see every
day, morning. It’s beautiful. Very beautiful design I must say. You know we copied this in the… we have
got this design, we use it in Calcutta. Really. Believe Me. It’s beautiful. What a beauty. Four pieces you got. It’s beautiful. Look at that. [applause] Thank you very much. Thank you. I thank all the Sheffield Sahaja Yogis for
such a beautiful gift and this I will have every day. Thank you very much. May God bless you. You better keep it back into the box I think,
properly done. It’s beautiful, isn’t it? You all can have a look. Let them see. The design is very nice and delicate. Who’s got it? Warren, you did. Yogi: I got it with [INAUDIBLE] this morning. Shri Mataji: Really? No this I didn’t see. The one I saw was, it has that design you
know. That didn’t have any design. Yogi: They couldn’t get the one You wanted
so this is the replacement. This is cheaper. Shri Mataji: Really. Sahaj. It’s from the same shop. It’s such a beautiful thing. And also very sensibly-sized you see. That one was a jumbo one. All right. So should we have some music? And, Gavin if you want I’ll eat, otherwise
I better go. I don’t want to trouble you people because
I had a meal. No because … why to bother. All right. So, let’s have this one. But what a nice thing. I want to see the design. [TAPE CONTINUES WITH CONVERSATION AND SINGING
THEN:] Shri Mataji: Beautiful. Now, your suggestion. Can you bring it? All right. Will you please go and get it? Yes, yes that’s great. Just go. Those who have their instruments should go
and get it. Pat has come I think. He is sitting outside. What’s the matter? What are you doing there? Well, you better join our company. Take him in the builders. [Marathi] Please get your musical instruments
if they are outside. The faces of Sahaja Yogis are so different
you know. They look so different. Every one is a piece of art I think. So beautiful. What’s she saying? Yogi: There’s a new song written by Diane
from Sheffield. Shri Mataji: Really? Great. Let’s hear. Now bring it along. Yes why not? From Sheffield we should have. [MARATHI] She’s written a Marathi poem,
so I’ll translate it to you. She says that, “My child who is a Sahaja
Yogi is telling you, is manifesting knowledge. I request you, everyone, that’s Me, request
you all of you, that I am the mother of this child, and you pay attention to him.” This is a typical, you see, a Indian, what
we call a kautuk, is the one where you handle the child with fondness. You express the fondness for the child. Now so she’s describing the fondness for
the child, I have. My little child sonu they call it, is the
golden child. My golden child speaks with such affection,
sweet, what you say to the child’s talk – chattel? Is it a good word? I mean Sahaja Yogis having chattels. We can say the beautiful talk of a child. You see child here meaning the innocence. He speaks to you with innocence, and listening
to him, I’m saying, to the people, listening to him, your attention will enter inside. It will leave all that is outside and will
enter inside. And
to tell [MARATHI] Nirupan is the explanation of the Divine, but is said, it goes with My
word Niru, Niru is My name. So it’s a pun on the word Nirupan – pana
means the abstract of Niru. To talk about that. So there’s a word, Nirupan has double word. It also means to explain the abstract of Mother,
and Nirupana also means explanation of Divine. “Oh God, give him the blessings, I say. He is also in this world living like a ordinary
householder, as well as he has achieved a Sahaja samadhi. He has achieved the Sahaja, samadhi as you
know is the enlightened awareness. But he lives in the world, not given up anything. For the people who are ignorant, he has taken
the help of chaitanya. He is [MARATHI] It goes beyond English. [MARATHI] Let Me try. You see you go on conquering, one after another
challenge to the ambrosia of Mother’s talks. Take Her name and you can do it. It’s very poetic. [MARATHI] In the eyes there’s light, enlightened,
and with that all the lights get enlightened, and the Siddhapurushas, the ones who have
achieved the Siddhata, the ones who are very great, higher souls have come on this Earth
now to see Mahayoga. They are watching. Their spirits are watching this Mahayoga of
the children, of children that are Mine. All right? It’s about. I am not so good now I must say. We’ll have to sit down. But Marathi language is very, very deep. To bring it out is very difficult but I have
tried. [MARATHI] Just put it for her little bit. [MARATHI – Poet sings in Marathi.] Shri Mataji: Now the last bit I just missed
the point. [MARATHI] the eyes lit in eyes of my children,
they’re the eyes you see, there’s a twinkle in your eye. The light lit in your eyes is that of knowledge,
and when it illumines the [MARATHI] What are they called? What are called clusters of lights in the
Heavens? What do you call them? Constellations? Yes, yes, constellations, yes. And when these lights are enlightened the
constellations, as the great evolved souls have come on this earth as constellations
because the twinkle in the eyes they see and all of them have come on this Earth to see
the Mahayoga that is working through you people. That’s a good one. Very beautiful. Thank-you. [Applause]
You read it from there, on the…that’s better. Yogi: This song’s been written originally
by me but I had a lot of help from brother Sahaja Yogis in Sheffield and I need Gareth
Reynolds on the guitar. [Yogini sings You are the Ocean.] Shri Mataji: Well done. [Applause] It’s a good one. Very beautiful. Very good one. Very well composed and very well done
and it’s really, I must say, also musically it’s very well composed. May God bless you. Beautiful. That’s the quality. It’s beautiful. That is Sheffield. [Applause] Are you going to sing? You’d better go and eat, and if you want
I can eat also. It’s all right. So then music comes to a termination. I’m sorry, because they have to eat and
I have to go back to London. Hope to meet you again sometime, I hope so
before I go to India, I don’t know what is the thing but Gavin is trying to arrange
a big program somewhere, again, hoping that in London we’ll do better and some people
will have some sticking plasters with them. So let’s eat. May God bless you. What a thing you’ve found I must say. That company is the same as the one we saw
is it? Same style, is it the same style? Similar. Ah. But they had no guarantee, nothing and no
design. This has guarantee? It has. For how many years?