Yoga, spiritualité et bonheur – Sudhir Tiwari interview 2018

Yoga, spiritualité et bonheur – Sudhir Tiwari interview 2018


[Neda] So we’ve heard a little bit about the
health benefits of of practices of asanas and Pranayama. Where is the spirituality in yoga ?
[Sudhir] Very very good question. Please remember as I said, if you look at
the discipline of Yoga, you can classify a student of yoga into two categories. One is a
spiritualist who is doing yoga for spiritual benefits. Then you have an
enthusiast, we call them physical culturist, Swami
Kuvalayananda has defined them as physical culturists who are doing yoga for benefits to their health, for
psychophysiological benefits, benefits to the body, benefits for the mind, and yoga,
and the science, is totally capable of, you know, doing both. So when it comes to
psychophysiological health, you have your asanas, you have Pranayam again
they cater to both, and now it’s proven that asanas and Pranayam
benefit the psychophysiological health. Now when it comes to spiritual tools, now
that’s altogether different ballgame, different stories, having a different way
of looking at things. The question arising is : what is spirituality, what is spiritual ? So
again, sometimes every human being asks themselves a question and the question
is who am I, what is that force, what is that energy that is behind
my existence, where is that energy, what is the nature of that energy, is it in
me, is it outside, these questions arise. Now this quest to know Who is called spirituality,
a hankering for self discovery is called spirituality, when people in the life
time ask themselves questions : am I the body, am I the mind,
am I the intellect, then you know that person is moving more inside. Now yoga
also is a tool which directs you in that direction to find who you are. Now this
discussion is you know beyond the purview of what we are talking right now,
because sometimes it’s a detail, and also please remember, Yoga is a
philosophy, more than a philosophy Yoga is a practice. And when it comes to the
spiritual aspect, then it is more practical in nature because it’s also
experiential in nature. It is not like some anything that’s intellectual. Intellect
can only take you so far but when yoga comes as a spirituality
then it’s experience based, every step. And again it starts right from the
beginning, it starts from asanas, that experience
intensifies in pranayam, you go beyond and more and more. Now that is the spiritual
aspect of Yoga. [Neda] What would be your advice for people
who are just starting off
with yoga, just maybe being interested or intrigued by it today and discovering
what it may be, what it may bring them [Sudhir] See, the first thing is to take … you know,
have a little bit of understanding, a little bit by means of reading and
whatever they want to do. First of all, Yoga is not like, you know
sometimes people have a misunderstanding that these practices, this practice will
get rid of the stresses of her life, will remove all worryies in my life.
But now please remember, yoga
is a tool, it will not remove stress from anyone’s life because inherently we
are likely facing situations, we have situations which are stressful in nature
but yoga gives us a tool to handle them, it gives us a tool to deal with
day-to-day life ups and downs in a more efficient way. So whoever wants to go
into yoga, number one they need to know why they’re going into it, and once they know why
they’re going into it then they have to set their expectations right and then choose a
good school, and please make sure to be open because in yoga they always say one
should not be close-minded in practicing yoga, they have to be open,
they have to, every time they have, they have to, you know, step by step, absorb
more, try to get gain clarity as to what the science of yoga is and,
one of the other things is, do practice under guidance as per capacity,
don’t try to compete with other people because, especially these days, and you
know the culture in yoga is identified with asanas, and people
think yoga and asanas are the same thing. No, yoga is far beyond, but even then when
people go into asanas they go after difficult postures, it has to look exotic,
it has to look difficult. No, it doesn’t have to do with difficulty. There’s a
specific purpose for asanas, there’s a specific purpose for postures, they have
to be done as per capacity and please keep in mind, and again for new
people, everyone has a specific body frame, every individual is special, every
individual is an individual with their own inherent capacities. You want to
discover what your capacity is without pushing yourself. Don’t try to be or do
something like others a time. You do things which are comfortable to you, do as
per your capacity and then other horizons will open up. So this is one of
the basic ways to approach yogic sciences. But make sure, you know, you
research where you want to go and, you know, all that kind of things.
[Neda] Do we get happier by practising yoga ?
[Sudhir] Of course, why not ! You know, the thing is, happiness, and again this is what I believe,
happiness is already within us. It’s covered. Happiness is in us, it exists, we
are happy people. Now, day to day stresses, day to day ups and downs, and
emotions, they are the ones who obscure this happiness. Now yoga gives us tools to
deal with them properly and when you see the anger subsiding, the anxiety
subsiding, this is gone then all that’s left is happiness. Someone
asked Buddha one time they said : “Lord, I want happiness”. Buddha says
“Drop the I, drop the want, all that’s left is happiness”. And yoga helps us in
dropping that I and dropping the want all that’s left is happiness which is
in us. [Neda] Thank you very much.